Local, local,local…….. Broken record? Perhaps.  Have you tried to buy any ammo lately? Buy the commodities that are still affordable. Have you planted any fruit trees? I am well aware of the time and expense of planting fruit trees and how long it takes to achieve the first harvest.

This is not the case for Black Berries, Raspberries, and Blue Berries. If things go well I will also plant a few grape vines this weekend. I try not to tell folks I am a prepper, I don’t like the word. Never really have.

At over 2 million for the first time in history, a 40% increase from the prior
quarter, and nearly a 100% from a year ago, when it comes to getting guns,
American just like Cypriots in need of cash, have just one option: get in

After 4 years in the US Marines…….. I don’t do lines of any kind, ask my wife it drives her nuts, really I WILL not wait in line for anything……. This would also be true of soup lines. Sheep wait in line to be slaughtered, the conditioning of the human psyche……… Soup lines and hand outs.

I try very hard to stay far away from my counter parts in regards to the Free Shit Army disparages, because after all we are all FSA in one form or another. Although there should be considerations for those that refuse to help their own situations of misfortune. Trash will always be trash.

If you are waiting in line at the moment…. you deserve it. Too harsh? So be it. The cattle are waking, and the majority of them are not in a position to get out of line, they missed the proverbial boat.

There will NOT be enough resources to feed and water 350 million Americans, we spoke in the past of the newly awakened with their juvenile philosophies of hitting the 100 acre woods and foraging and shooting all the bambies. Shall we put the pencil to this rather odd reasoning?

Now keep in mind the most recent statistics DO NOT account for the stresses on the deer herd because of the recent prolonged harsh winter.

The current white tail herd size is approximately 30,000,000, average weight would be about 175 pounds, caped, dressed and deboned would allow approximately 80 pounds of consumable meat not including the organ meat. 30 million x 80 pounds = 2, 400, 000,000 pounds of available deer meat. Divide that by the population of the USA, it would allow for about 6.8 pounds of deer meat per person, and of course a extinct herd.

The feeder animal population is nill, how long would it take for the stock yards to quit supplying the grocery stores? After all we must realize just like guns and ammo…… You will be waiting in line.

Do you know who owns the horses in your AO? You should. And just to set the record straight…… Where will all the bullets come from to kill off the White Tail Herd for consumption? Wire Cutter / Kenny did an article not long ago about fishing gear, and the man was spot on, it would be a very wise investment while it’s still relatively inexpensive.

I stocked up years ago on my fishing gear, trot lines, jug lines would be a smart thing to add to one’s preps. Save those used milk jugs… and for heaven’s sake store them away from UV rays.

If you are not currently investing in Heirloom Garden Seed, and other means to feed yourself and family………. the picture is not pretty. Can’t happen here you say? Better wipe the sleep from your eyes, and get out of that soup line.

As children we watched the Walton’s, my family still watches it, it’s a wonderful family friendly TV show. And the writers and producers were very, very historically accurate in regards to how a small family survived those times.

You did not see any cattle, only a milk cow, and a mule, there was always a chicken coop, and pigs being fed slop. They hunted for turkey and fished for catfish and trout. There was a garden near the home that the entire family tended.

If you pay very close attention to the meals that were served in the episodes, you would never see large cuts of beef being served, other than a special occasion. Lots of ham, fried chicken and catfish. The smoke house was often in view as well, cold smoking process to preserve the pork. The root cellar was always full.

I suppose it’s time to get off my soap box, after all…….. Some folks enjoy waiting in line.

Horse it’s the other white meat.

Palestinians slaughter horses for cheap meat

Got Seed?

28 thoughts on “HORSE MEAT and LONG PIG

  1. When I had cows, steers and horses, occasionally a horse had to put down, not for medical reasons, and we butchered it and passed it out to the family. No complaints as they ate it. Yes, the meat is a dark red compared to beef. But there is nothing wrong with it.
    All over this country there is other than deer to harvest. There is Elk, Moose, Bison, Antelope, wild horses, mule deer, wild donkeys. There is a smorgisborg (sp) of meat out there. And it’s all good.
    Papa Mike

      • Add to that the fact that 80% percent of the population could not hunt (even a blind crippled deer) and probably 90% could not dress out a deer, hog or horse
        if their life depended on it (and it will) and you have an Extinction Level Event for
        the great North American ” Urbanus Boobus’ herds.

        It will be brutal, ugly, and nightmarish for those who did not listen. Sadly, I am fresh out of pity today, fuck e’m.

        • How stupid of me to ‘assume’ people know how to hunt. The mass still believe all beef comes from the supermarket. Forgive me from having a huge brain fart.
          Most “prepared” people will, IMHO will last 2 months, IF they have a gun, and ASSUMING they know how to use it.
          I’m glad I “GET IT” and I have a Tribe.
          Papa Mike

            • Remember the lions and the hyenas.
              A solitary lion has no difficulty taking game, but the hyenas smell it a mile off and soon relieve him of his kill (he’ll be glad to escape with his life).
              A pride is another story…

            • A gun HAHAHAHAH I have Nukes, biological and Chemical who am I .
              A democrat/republican liar child molesting Politician /Banker.

              Tons of Supplies stored away from you plenty more from us when we cull the herd.

              All Intentional my friends, cannot we start disposing of this EVIL God hating TRASH PLEASE?

  2. Hey— you found my horse!!!Thanks Bill

    But in all seriousness, I’ve been saving more money before I buy seed. Plus, I really don’t understand how those worm castings work…but I think we will need them for next season…

    Its a slippery slope. I am surrounded by friends and family who are in serious delusion about the difference between needs and WANTS.
    I needed to eat food this week….so I went into the garden and picked some vegetables. I want a new dress, but I bought gas instead. Why? because cars don’t run on size 7 cotton blends….meh

    Somehow my sister and some of my friends still think that nutrisweet and aspartame are foods…
    Fuck it…we all can’t survive the long haul and I accept that….

  3. You’ve hit the salient point(s) very well. The “non-preppers” know, but ignore. Or, as you mention, they are standing in lines for strange stuff or counting on the tooth fairy (read: hunting). I’ve talked to locals about simple exercises to convince themselves of what they would need if “just in time” re-supply failed for some reason–I’ve asked them to calculate the weight of flour needed to bake one loaf of bread per day for a year. Flour, corn meal, rice, sugar etc. and 5 gal buckets and Mylar are dirt cheap now–there are no lines. It’s doubtful that the average family of four, even multi-family tribes, will be able to produce the 250-300 grams of carbs that will be needed per day per person on a long term basis. You can easily supplement from garden to table, but those skills take a few years to acquire and most families won’t survive on that. Protein, like that derived from beans, fish (e.g., tilapia), foul and the like can be farmed on a small scale, but carbs are the key. Beyond the first 21 days it will get ugly. Your worst enemy might just be your neighbor.

  4. Yep! I’ve been saying for years – when things go to hell, we’ll be eating horse.

    When I had a couple horses, I’d tell people I kept 2,000 lbs. of meat on the hoof just in case times got hard. You should have seen the looks on the horse-hugger’s faces when I’d say that at the horse rescue ranch I used to volunteer at.

  5. Styrofoam buoys are cheap and will last virtually forever. Couple bucks a piece and can be found at the better fishing tackle shops/bait stands/sporting goods stores. A couple shad/perch/crawdad/shrimp traps wouldn’t be a bad thing to have either. Or a cast net. A flounder gig. Crab traps. A seine net. Push net. Clam rake. Oyster tongs. Whatever would be useful in your AO…

  6. I et horse before – ain’t bad.
    What I get a kick out of is those folks from the SF Bay Area that think when hard times come they’ll be able to waltz over here to the Central Valley and make themselves at home. After all, we’ve got plenty of crops and water here and my goodness, look at all them cows.
    Of course, they forget that all ‘them cows’ belong to somebody else and I got news for them, Mr. Diaz, Mr. Sousa, Mr. Richards and the Mapes Boys are going to protect that herd with their lives, especially the breeding stock. And they have small standing armies, also known as ranch hands.
    Hell, I’ve lived in this valley my entire adult life and I wouldn’t even consider rustling a head of beef. It’s a serious criminal offense now and will again be a hanging offense in the future.
    Good post Bill and thanks for the mention.

  7. First, trapping is easier than hunting. Urban people better be ready to trap varmints like squirrel, raccoon and possum and eat them. I’ve had both squirrel and raccoon, they’re good. Rats are edible. Mice too, although they aren’t much of a mouthful. There are geese in many cities. They are considered pests by many, I consider them emergency dinner. One can raise rats, guinea pigs, fish, pigeons, rabbits, or even chickens in an urban setting on the sly if one is clever. Chickens are a little harder to hide, I’d do rabbits, since to keep your flock breeding you’ll need a noisy rooster. Although the eggs are nice, so if you can stand the idea of not having a rooster, maybe a pet chicken can give you eggs until she gets too old. People also can eat certain bugs – ants, termites, grasshoppers, cicadas, mealworms, probably earthworms too. Most will starve while under their very feet is sustenance. People are not likely to fight you for bugs. You can raise earthworms and mealworms either to use as feed for something else or to eat yourself. You can grind mealworms and add them to bread you bake.

    If you don’t have enough land to grow a garden, then guerrilla garden. And BTW, it’s all about the soil. Standard sod-on-clay yards aren’t going to cut it. Get good dirt now.

    There is a permaculture trick called a food forest. Done right it looks nothing like a tended garden. You start with a tree (ideally a fruit or nut tree) and do companion plantings in descending order of tallness around it. First a vine to go up the tree, then the rest. Plant certain things to protect certain other things, or encourage them. Just google the words food forest and permaculture for details. You mix it all up – turnips with buckwheat for example, and it will look like a weedy mess. Your biggest danger in a guerrilla garden is that someone will mow it or alternatively that a hungry person will see you harvesting and then steal your food. But if you have land to do this, the trees should be about 40 feet apart.

    Quinoa grows even in cold climates, and is a complete protein. It is a tall weedy looking thing that most people in the US have no idea what it looks like. I tried growing amaranth last year and the mouthful of seeds per plant isn’t worth it to give it real estate in my yard. This year I’m going to try growing quinoa. You can also eat the leaves of both. You can get the seeds in a health food store as food, then plant them.

    You can landscape with edibles that other people don’t know are edible. You will end up with a lot of greens. You are going to need carbos. Plant potatoes and turnips now. ‘Tis the season. You can just let taters from the store get eyes. Turnip seed is cheap. Sugar beets are another consideration – you could make alcohol from them. Taters are subject to that same fungus that caused the Irish Potato famine. You can mitigate that by watering them with milk sometimes and putting down mushroom spoor around them. Also don’t have a monoculture. Sweet potatoes are ideal stealth carbos.

    Even if you miss the boat on heirloom seeds, hybrids will often breed something similar the next year, just it’s kind of a crap shoot. You can learn edible weeds, go out this warm season and find them, and then propagate them in other places. I did that with Jerusalem artichokes a couple years ago. I started with ONE plant and I have a patch of them now and nothing can kill them even digging them up root and all, they come back. I intend to take some rhizomes and plant them down by the river in a wild area. You can pickle them, which takes away the fartiness. You can pickle wild grape leaves, purslane, even lambs quarter. Also, every part of kudzu is edible and the Japanese make flour from the roots.

    You can take a root from blackberry bushes and it will grow into another bush. You don’t need to get the seeds. As long as you know where there are bushes you’re set, you can get a root.

    To fertilize your garden, take pee and water it down and water the garden with that in the fall for a month or so after you’re done growing food. Men’s pee please, if the women are on birth control pills. Have a plan to stay sanitary even if the sewer stops working. That’s a whole ‘nother chapter and you can’t control where stupid people poop.

    Learn now how to make your own vinegar, cheese, hooch, and fermented vegetables. Learn how to dehydrate and make a solar dehydrator and cooker. And hold onto your pressure canners folks. Get some Tattler lids if you’re going to can, they’re reusable. Even regular canning lids can be reusable, just not for canning liquid things. I re-use them for putting herbs in jars or for fridge pickles where the seal doesn’t matter. Without a pressure canner, you will need to either pickle or dehydrate things that aren’t naturally acidic. Get and store both Kosher and regular salt, for pickling and making jerky.

    For fuel: Make a rocket stove, as wood is going to get all chopped down once the oil supply is disrupted, and rocket stoves give you the most heat and least smoke for the least wood. Store the things to make a canopy bed that you can heat just that and not the rest of your house, and/or get a winter sleeping bag. My furnace died 10 times in a row this February and March, and I discovered I can tolerate house temps in the low 50’s.

    Get a rain barrel or at least a downspout diverter kit, you can divert a downspout indoors if need be to fill a big bucket and then redirect the diverter back outdoors. You don’t need to have your rain barrel be outdoors. Get and know how to make gravity water filters.

  8. We once ate donkey – enough to get tired of it. Much better than nothing. Rabbits are good eatin’ critters. Enough for a meal for 2 – 3 people. 2000# of horse meat seems like it would spoil before you could eat it all.

    • Everyone should get “A FAILURE OF CIVILITY” read it and take action before thing come apart. A community working together in defense, and these other needs would have a much better outcome than any lone wolf operation.

  9. I live near a Russian immigrant community . These folks have been through a collapse . First all the men pack firearms conceal carry . They all planted fruit trees and small gardens . They live three generations to a house . They only use cash , lots of cash . They buy newer damaged cars and restore them .
    I feel like the kid in the movie ” I see dead people ” because so many are so unprepared there will be dead people.

  10. When the ill winds arrive in force, the “I see dead people” perspective is the only one with any credibility. Starvation will be flat-out the norm and those who have done nothing to prepare for the inevitable will get what they justly deserve because they were co-enablers of the shitstorm heading right at us.

    I’ve never stumbled upon this site before, but it seems like both the author and those who’ve commented pretty well have their act together. Somebody ahead of me mentioned that he figured only about 10% of the population would know how to process the animals. Hell, I doubt that 20% of hunters process their own. They kill em’, gut em’, and take ’em to the butcher shop. Killing is easy, cleaning them and getting them out is work and the meat processing is a bit art, a bunch of work, and beforehand the the question of “How am I going to preserve this thing?” had better already been answered.

    One of the short-sentence pundits mentioned that 2000 pounds of horsemeat is a hell of a lot and most would go to waste. 2000 pound-plus horses pull beer wagons, so think about 1400 on the hoof and maybe 700 in the larder. Learn to dehydrate and to can the stuff. Grid down is grid down. That is why me and mine have been off of it for twenty years and have a couple of wood cook stoves (one an old Monarch, exactly like the one on the Waltons). When I kill an old Bull Elk or a gnarly old muley whose got more grey hair than myself, we don’t bother with the “good cuts” because on an old “fighting and fucking” critter, there aren’t any. LEARN TO CAN IT. That’s with a “Pressure Cooker” used what it was designed for instead of how those East Coast people use them.

    In addition, learn how to make Pemmican and jerky with the stuff. Build yourself some drying racks and learn everything now so you can perfect the techniques ahead of time and afford a screw-up here and again. Getting primitive/semi-primitive techniques down is a fairly steep learning curve, and trying to master them when bullets are flying ain’t gonna happen because it’s going to be a bad classroom environment.

    Now, not later. Don’t talk about it – Do It! From Idaho, and good luck!

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